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Apartment complex proposal torpedoed by Shelburne council

Bill Chidiac at his A1 pizza shop in Shelburne.

Bill Chidiac at his A1 pizza shop in Shelburne.

Amy Woolvett
Published on September 18, 2012
Published on September 18, 2012
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CAO blames major opposition from neighbours for rejection

 

By Amy Woolvett

THE COAST GUARD

A local business owner is disappointed his proposal to build apartments in Shelburne isn’t even getting off the ground.

Bill Chidiac approached council’s committee of the whole meeting in June with his dream to build an apartment complex with anywhere from 20 to 30 units.

He owns a 2.6-acre corner lot that runs from Cornwallis Street to Clement Street and Minto Street to Big Rock Road in Shelburne.

“It seemed to me on that particular day it was in everyone’s favour,” said Chidiac.

After Chidiac’s presentation, Chief Administrative Officer Dylan Heide was instructed by council to find out what he could about whether or not the project would be possible.

Town bylaws state that apartment buildings greater than six units are not permitted on Cornwallis Street between Minto and Aberdeen Streets.

There were other streets in Shelburne that were already approved for a project of this size.

“The only thing we could do was to add his street to the approved list,” said Heide.

Council called a reading of the Municipal Planing Strategy and Land Use By-Law Amendments with regards to permitting apartment buildings of six or more units on Cornwallis Street.

It was at the second reading and during a public hearing that the residents in the vicinity of the proposed site showed up to voice their unanimous opposition to apartments being built on their street.

“Increased traffic to the area was the biggest issue,” said Heide.

The town was not discussing the actual project being proposed, but were focused on changing the rules that apartments be allowed.

There were 16 residents that showed their opposition, either verbally or in writing to the town.

When it was put to a vote four councilors opposed the change and one councilor was for it.

“Council might have liked to see the apartments built but they couldn’t go against what they heard from the public,” said Heide.

Heide said that some of the residents were worried the plan had no specifics or limitations and would allow anything up to a high rise apartment building to be constructed.

Chidiac said he was not sure why the public voted against it.

“Maybe they did not get the right information,” he said.  “If they had, they would not have voted against it,” he said. “I want them to be happy with their neighbourhood because it is my neighbourhood too.”

Instead he is hoping to approach council on opening up the road on a different point of entry to his property on Big Rock Road. 

Chidiac explained that this was a project he has been dreaming about and planning for a few years.

“There are 300 jobs coming to Shelburne,” he said.  “Where are these people going to live?”

His apartment structure will be aimed at medium to high-end units, with added amenities not found in Shelburne.

“I could decide to build in the Municipality of Shelburne and pay half of the taxes,” he said.  “But I want to build in the community I live in.”

He said he has struggled as a business owner of a local pizzeria with the ups and downs of Shelburne’s economy, which has included the loss of the former navy base and boy’s school.

“We pay so much in taxes,” he said.  “The town says that we need more businesses to offset taxes and here was an opportunity to lower everyone’s taxes…why not let this community move on and grow for our kids.”

Chidiac wants to invest every cent he has managed to save over the 17 years as a business owner into the project as well as use the capitol he can borrow off of his business and home.

“I don’t have deep pockets…I’m taking a big chance and have everything to lose,” he said.  “The community of Shelburne has nothing to lose but everything to gain.”

He hoped that there were more people in the community in support of the apartment complex project.

“I would like to hear from the community if anyone thinks I shouldn’t build it or if people are in support of the project,” he said.

 

 

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  • Username
    What are you thinking??
    - November 4, 2012 at 00:38:21

    I'm ashamed. Having been born and raised in Shelburne, and coming from a family with deep roots there, I hate to hear about business opportunities being shot down in my hometown. I vowed to never be like the rest of my graduating class and move out west for a career opportunity. I went on to university to become an educator and because of the lack of job opportunities in the province I loved and cherished, HAD to move out to an isolated town in Northern Alberta that is a PRODUCT of close-mindedness. internet is considered offensive here. While Shelburne isn't quite of this calibre, it's being run by less than 1% of the population who gets their undies in a bundle over a dog farting on a dirt road. They take to the editorials and get out their ink wells and paper to write letters of disapproval about nearly every business proposal because it's easier to be a pessimist and it makes for better conversation at the coffee shop. I came home to visit this summer and took a walk along Water Street. Rental units OWNED by an unmentioned mayoral candidate are mere remnants of houses that were once decent to live in. The lawns were not clipped, the paint was unrecognizable colours, repairs were beyond necessary, and the smell of rotting wood while walking by was ghastly. To sum it up, drive the streets and take a look at the housing options available. It's pathetic. To even attempt to squash the development of "medium to high end" apartments is a ridiculous idea in its entirety. We aren't talking about a meth lab run by a logging company here. "Traffic" in Shelburne is insane, I know. There should be lights at every intersection, along with crossing guards at every cross walk. Give me a break here. Bill, an upstanding community member, is not looking to put up a shanty on the Waterfront or block your nosey view to the street. Get out of the 1800's, allow businesses to grow, create jobs, allow people to have DECENT places to live and not shabby, run-down shacks that litter the streets. And for Pete's sake, give us the option to move back home!!

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    just wondering
    - September 27, 2012 at 07:59:31

    ummmm......just wondering, would there have been such an outcry if it had been in any other area in town, or if everybody thought about all the available space and empty buildings (many of which are for sale, and in commercially zoned locations) that would make excellent medium to high end rentals and be reasonably close to all amenties. it would be nice to see some of those empty buildings having life breathed into them again. the proposed location seems to be one of opportunity (ie bill owns the land) than necessarily one of merit.

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    Bernie Nickerson
    - September 25, 2012 at 21:21:11

    Another fine example of just what the future "new" Council will be faced with AND with the "wrong person" at the helm; Shelburne will remain the quiet, little Loyalist Town that some want with no vision and with no vision, the people perish.

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    Janet O'Connell
    - September 24, 2012 at 13:35:07

    I am ashamed that we are talking diversity, inclusion, etc. and yet those who want to make Shelburne their home is pushed aside with no specific reasoning,... we NEED more and proper housing in this town... end of story..

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    Cole Abbott
    - September 23, 2012 at 12:34:04

    Compleatly pathetic... Shelburne never fails to dissapoint.. ever... I lived there for 17 years and every year the exact same thing happens... what a shame, and i hope bill gets some actual local support in this project because this IS WHAT SHELBURNE NEEDS!!!

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    Teresa Goreham
    - September 20, 2012 at 20:41:02

    Don't give up Bill you can do it Shelburne needs it or pretty soon it's going to be a ghost town

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    Positivity and Optimism
    - September 20, 2012 at 15:38:13

    "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not." The Lorax, Dr Seuss. It's a simple quote but I think it speaks volumes to the situation. Yeah, let's just give up on everything and any dreams anyone in Shelburne may have because that's such a great attitude to carry.... Actually, that's a terrible attitude to have, shame, shame, shame towards those that are of the older generation. "why would anybody put a new gas station and store in shelburne ?????" Maybe because they want to see some positive changes and development in their community? Why are we shunning the hopes of someone who wants to do that or anything else for that matter. Why are we not supporting them instead? It would be wonderful to have more shops, amusement, maybe a go kart or lazer tag center, a new movie theatre, or at the very least a new apartment complex. You may say Bill or myself are dreamers but I think that we're both envisioning better things for Shelburne and I don't see why anyone would want to take that away from anyone. Also, maybe it's not easy to just head on out to Alberta or move away from family members in Shelburne. Maybe some individuals actually want to stay in the area and are looking for development in their community during their lifetime or aren't able to move because they live with their parents and want to enjoy their elementary and high school education living in their town. Best of luck Bill, fight the pessimistic attitudes that are trying to stand in your way. More people should take pride in their community and work to change the things they don't like instead of raining on the dreams of others and complaining that the town sucks. What an awful attitude to have, it must be nice living inside a box.

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      Krista
      - September 20, 2012 at 20:34:34

      The main concern is increased traffic? hahaha, going from one car an hour to what, maybe five, is too much to handle? omg, give me a break!

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    Carol Bower
    - September 20, 2012 at 14:24:37

    I have not lived in Shelburne for over 30 years,but I was born and raised to adulthood in this lovely town. We come home every year for two weeks. The town has not changed except for the people. They have lost all hope of ever getting ahead here and worry about the next generation who will end up on welfare,living on the streets or commiting suicide . I blame this on all the "distinguished" people who sit on their bountiful asses and think they know what is best for this town. .Why not start building up this beautiful waterfront town and entice more people to invest here? We have lost our fishing industry and the town needs to finally get back on their feet and be proud of their town. A tiny amount of people say that there would be too much traffic....what??? There may be a car go by their house in an hour. The town is dying and if you gave a crap about it and your children and grandchildren ,you would want to see a prosperous and beautiful tourist attraction come back to Shelburne. The saying goes.."IF YOU BUILD IT,THEY WILL COME."So Mayor and Council..do what you get paid the big bucks for and rebuild your town.

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    novablue
    - September 20, 2012 at 00:05:19

    it is time to write the town off ,gate the ends and call it over . i am 53 and it hasn't ever been any different ...bill go build somewhere else outside of this closed town . why would anybody put a new gas station and store in shelburne ????? ..why are our people moving to alberta in droves ??? ,,,,not hard to figure that out!!!!!

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    David
    - September 19, 2012 at 16:07:52

    http://maps.google.ca/maps?q=Cornwallis+Street+shelburne+nova+scotia&hl=en&ll=43.771481,-65.319042&spn=0.004486,0.006899&hnear=Cornwallis+St,+Shelburne,+Shelburne+County,+Nova+Scotia+B0T+1W0&gl=ca&t=h&z=17 The link above (if it works) provides what I think is the location of the proposed apartment. I like the idea of an apartment building (in Shelburne) and can see many styles of apartment buildings ( http://maps.google.ca/maps?q=Cornwallis+Street+shelburne+nova+scotia&hl=en&ll=43.671507,-79.293335&spn=0.002153,0.003449&hnear=Cornwallis+St,+Shelburne,+Shelburne+County,+Nova+Scotia+B0T+1W0&gl=ca&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=43.671462,-79.293333&panoid=xGVkuSYIlezjpKESpYOalA&cbp=12,165.97,,0,-0.98 ) in the GTA area that accommodate 20 to 30 units that would be very attractive to the rural setting of Shelburne but the location proposed is not sitting off the main roads of the town of Shelburne. This is a "Remote" location within the town. My family spent a couple of weeks in Shelburne this past summer and enjoyed it. This time provided us the ability to see the town. "Bill the Pizza Guy", I've respect for and his ideas but the issue of "Location" is the issue. Before Bill or others start capital expenditure programs in this town, the town should get itself better positioned for growth. Identification of higher density areas and the freeing up of this land. Those who own land in the high density areas should either do something with it or give up the land to someone who will. Maybe the town should be buying and holding properties themselves and later building and selling as a whole or through a trust unit where the town remains directly or indirectly the property manager? The town should have a clear definition of how exteriors should (should not) look and any other governance's. People like "Bill" should know up front what they are getting themselves into prior to purchasing land. The article while identifying the current zoning will not permit such development one has to ask, did "Bill" have reasonable expectation of the zoning being changed due to past experience... or, was "Bill" just holding his breath hoping to slip this through? Issues: 1) "Bill" and his expectation of land use. Where / are they reasonable and did he have reasonable expectation (clarity) of what could be accomplished? 2) Town of Shelburne, has it and is it working towards the redevelopment of key areas for redevelopment where this development augments in a positive way the existing architecture and small town look feel? 3) The local residence.... Are they supportive or non supportive for obvious reasons or (like many places) do hidden agendas exist, where one is undermined while someone else benefits?

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    Jost Fayre
    - September 19, 2012 at 15:58:15

    I don't think other commenters read the article. Council torpedoed nothing! The Coastguard as usual is putting up inflammatory headlines that assist their agenda to torpedo this council. If Greg & Amy don't like what's going on in the town it's election time - go run and stop sniping from the corners - basically put up or shut up! From what I read here the bylaw says no building like this on that site and that many other locations are available. The council looked at ways to accommodate Mr Chidiac - they did not give him a blanket NO but tried to get this done. In a democracy this includes consultation with those who may be affected by the development. They did consult & the local residents had an issue with the size of this development and with traffic issues - that's what I read here. Maybe Mr Chidiac should have spent time consulting with these residents and gauging their reaction and educating them of what his intentions for the development were instead of moaning about being misunderstood. Yes, the Town needs this type of development but it must meet zoning and community requirements. Unfortunately I don't think he did his homework and I hope he can sell this land and work it out in another location. Best wishes Mr Chidiac.

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    Promoting Change, Growth, and Development
    - September 19, 2012 at 15:36:06

    his deeply saddens me. As someone who worked hard to create change in Shelburne between 2005-2007 before moving to another province to continue my education, I also encountered difficulty at times. I wanted to create different opportunities for youth in the community, so I started a jump rope skipping team for the Heart and Stroke Foundation at the elementary school as well as a local chapter of the organization known as Operation Smile at the high school. It was difficult to get both off of the ground. Although many were engaged and supportive of both, there were others who tried to stand in my way because it was "change," even though it was positive change. There are many who are "important" people who also don't like the spotlight on others, many afraid of upsetting their quiet little town and it's really sad to say it but there are many layers of corruption in this town. They'll find any reason to stomp out your dreams, even if it's as ridiiculous as bringing "traffic" to the area. It can be very disheartening when your community tries to stand in your way of trying to do the right thing but it can be very rewarding if you stick with it! Hang in there, I'm in total support of your dream to invoke change in the community by building an apartment complex or any other ideas to promote growth. Keep at it! All the best!

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    Not Suprised
    - September 19, 2012 at 12:40:53

    “Increased traffic to the area was the biggest issue,” said Heide So there would potentially be what, 60 more cars (assuming 2 vehicles per unit). It sure seems like Shelburne has done everything possible to limit any development for the past 20 years but this one really takes the cake! This is not Toronto where they are building multiple codos that will house 5000 people per tower. Please tell me which roads in Shelburne cannot accomodate 60 more cars? That's the dumbest excuse I've ever heard.

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    Francisco Santos Mir III
    - September 18, 2012 at 21:14:28

    OH EM GEE! this saddens me that the town wont allow the legendary Bill the pizza guy build these apartments....im usually busy training at my gym for fights but i would consider moving from nevada to shelburne and hold my training camps at the albert acker field if these apartments could be built. I know I speak for myself and president of the ufc dana white, these should be built!!!!!!!!!

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    Common Sense
    - September 18, 2012 at 20:11:51

    The only thing that should be the issue here is if there is a need for proper housing in Shelburne. Having a mobile small business which caters to the needs of the interior of ones home, I get to see the living conditions of tenants. The only reason this was opposed is because the slum lord committee are violently opposed to someone encroaching on their turf. Shelburne should be a booming city but instead it is a starving tumbleweed town, for shame !

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    John Hartley
    - September 18, 2012 at 20:05:16

    Here is someone trying to follow his dream, in a place that refuses to accommodate development and growth. I remember in SRHS there was a big sign that says you miss 100 percent of the shots you don't take. I guess that was for show. Good Job Bill keep pushing buddy, I wish you all the best. But it could be a blessing as well. We supposedly have had a large number of jobs coming to town for over 10 years. It hasn't happened yet.

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    Polar Bear
    - September 18, 2012 at 19:56:49

    Did we expect anything different?

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    richard burton
    - September 18, 2012 at 19:56:33

    I have never understood the mentality exhibited by some of the "leaders" in this town. People are moving away , our tax base is eroding and all the while expenses are increasing. We need investment in "our" community or sustainability will not be an option. Should we automatically ' green light" everything, certainly not, but to discard one persons ideas, simply because of traffic is really absurd! With that reasoning there would be no growth any where, ever! There are 16 against out of how many in the town? I' am sure there are a lot more than 16 that would approve the project. Maybe there are some issues but if the parties concerned get together there could be a solution found that would appease all. The town "leaders " need to take the incentive here and get their heads out of the SAND.

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    Laurie Ossinger
    - September 18, 2012 at 15:29:48

    Not a surprise, this is one of the reasons so many have moved away, a non up to date town council that only looks after there own business and agendas.....

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    Tammy Dolliver
    - September 18, 2012 at 14:01:02

    It saddens me to here that this business opportunity and grow for the town of Shelburne has been turned down so quickly...I know this would of provided a lot of people with much needed employment, and the town also would of benefited with the spin off of taxes, building permits etc. I do hope the 300 jobs that they say are coming do....I think people are tired of trying to pay bills with empty promises and wallets and living in a place that refuses to change, that's why we left four years ago, Alberta is growing, people are supportive and the city is never afraid to expand to create jobs and growth! I just hope if they do allow the appartmnets to be built, that there is actually people left living there to rent them!

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      Kim Turner-de Vries
      - September 18, 2012 at 16:17:49

      I don't get this community. As much as I miss home, there is no way I could ever live there again. While there has been a lot of new initiatives over the years, more needs to be done. The so-called opposition to this housing project needs to stop being afraid of change. Change is good, especially when you live in a town that has dwindled on the verge of becoming a ghost town.

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      Robin MacDougall
      - September 18, 2012 at 21:06:53

      It really doesn't shock me that the town is not going to let this happen. Seems like everytime someone has a new, inovative idea, it's haulted before it even begins. Which is precisely why the population keeps shrinking. There is nothing left in that town to make young people want to stick around and who can blame them? I hope someday that town votes in some people who understand that the way of world today involves change and you must evolve with the times! I wish you all the best Bill!!!

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